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Brown backs slur-hit city estate

6:00am Tuesday 8th April 2008

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By David Horne »

Prime Minister Gordon Brown yesterday backed an Oxford estate, following a row over slurs made by a senior Cabinet minister.

Residents of Blackbird Leys are furious with Hazel Blears, the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government.

She said the area suffered from higher-than-average levels of crime, vandalism and unemployment - but residents said it was an out-of-date stereotype.

Mr Brown, who was visiting the city, distanced himself from the views of Ms Blears and applauded the "huge step forward" that Blackbird Leys had taken in recent years.

The PM talked to Blackbird Leys residents about the row when he visited Oxford East MP Andrew Smith's home.

Meanwhile, a spokesman for Ms Blears said she would make no further comment.

Mr Brown said: "She was talking about the past, but I am talking about the present and the future.

"There is so much improvement taking place in Blackbird Leys. We should be proud of the work that the local residents and the local MP have done.

"We are talking about a Blackbird Leys that has made a huge step forward, with a great improvement in education and housing. I applaud what has been done."

Blackbird Leys Parish Council chairman Gordon Roper, who met Mr Brown, said: "I'm pleased that Gordon Brown has distanced himself from these comments. It was good for Blackbird Leys that he came to visit.

"He thanked all the people involved in Blackbird Leys and hoped we could progress and get rid of this stigma of our name.

"I would still like Hazel Blears to come down and have a follow-up visit.

"She is welcome to come down any time, we would love her to meet the parish council and have a proper discussion."

Mr Smith said Ms Blears should have known better, after visiting Blackbird Leys two year ago.

He said: "She has said she was referring to the past, but it is just not helpful that these sort of stereotypes get trotted out. As local residents we get sick of it."

Ms Blears's spokesman Paul Richards said: "She supports whatever the Prime Minister has said."

The PM also visited the Oxford Bus Company in Watlington Road, Cowley, to talk to families as part of Labour's campaign for next month's local elections.

Mr Brown met 83-year-old bus company worker Arthur Pearson, who has notched up 60 years' service with the firm, and husband-and-wife drivers Andy Carter and Claire George-Carter, who juggle their shifts around caring for daughter Gemma, eight.

Mr Brown also said that a decision on a proposed eco-town near Weston-on-the-Green was "in the hands of the people of Oxfordshire".

Meanwhile, landlords at two Oxford pubs were given the chance to sound off over higher rents and beer prices when a top Conservative politician dropped in yesterday.

Jeremy Hunt, the MP for South West Surrey and the Tories' shadow secretary of state for culture, media and sport, visited the Rose and Crown and Gardeners Arms pubs, in North Parade Avenue, off Banbury Road, to speak to residents and landlords about the problems facing smaller local pubs.

Mr Hunt said the Government needed to increase tax on alcopops and build up relationships with councils in a bid to prevent pub closures.

He said: "The message we're getting is pubs are like post offices. They're important to communities.

"We need more sensible policies, rather than rushing through measures which punish ordinary drinkers."

Jenny Rhymes, landlady at the Rose and Crown, said: "Two or three pubs a day are disappearing now. This is part of a national campaign to raise awareness."


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Ricchie, Rose Hill says...
8:01am Tue 8 Apr 08

If Gordy Brown really wanted to support communities,he should not double taxes from 10p in the pound to 20p for lower paid workers.

Many workers living in Blackbird Leys will be paying more tax thanks to his grubby greed, and tax credits are not the answer for those (for example)who are single or married with no children.

Brown is costing the lower paid, and pensioners more. So you cannot call that "support" : it is knocking people down directly from the pay packet.


brian, BBLeys says...
11:02am Tue 8 Apr 08

Ricchie is right, our tax bill has now doubled yet labour still seek the support of the working classes

DanOxford, says...
12:05pm Tue 8 Apr 08

NuLabour don't give a stuff about the 'working class'- they've made it easier NOT to work, but for the rest of us they've allowed mass immigration to undercut wages (the findings of a Lords report, yet Broon STILL says immigration on this scale is a 'good' thing); house prices to spiral out of reach of most normal working people; tax to increase to record levels; the wealth gap to stay the same as it was under Thatcher; introduced University tuition fees and removed grants so that children from poorer familes are put off from going; undermined our sense of National pride and belonging and started an illegal war costing British lives.

Think back to teh cash donations scandals- a property developer and a foreign national were involved- STILL think NuLabour are the part of working class British people?

Mr Ison, England says...
2:07pm Tue 8 Apr 08

Tom does a good job of paring back new labour policy to it's bare bones.

Ladle on the guff and you have new labour policy clothed in appearances.

Berinsfield, says...
2:42pm Tue 8 Apr 08

I am glad BBL exists, its gives us folk from Berinsfield somewhere to look down on !

Why does everyone fall over themselves to help the type of people who live on BBL but Berinsfield gets nothing.

CIVIL SERVANT, oxford says...
2:51pm Tue 8 Apr 08

AS SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED ON B.B LEYS FOR 35 YEARS AND IS ONLY 8 MONTHS FROM RETIREMENT AFTER WORKING 42 YEARS OUT OF THE LAST 45.I IMAGINE THE PEOPLE ON BLACKBIRD LEYS ARE PROBABLY VERY MUCH ON A PAR WITH BERINSFIELD.I WOULD LIKE TO ADD I WOULD RATHER LIVE AMONG REAL PEOPLE THAN MENTALLY DEFICIENT PEOPLE.SO I AM GLAD B.B.LEYS EXISTS SO I DONT HAVE TO.

tom, kennington says...
3:13pm Tue 8 Apr 08

b b leys resident wrote:
tom wrote: blackbird leys is full to the brim of the absolute SCUM of the earth,they should knock it down,and send it's residents to siberia,or better still put them down.
A LOAD OF S*** FROM A LOAD OF S***.YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO LIVE ON THE LEYS WE ARE ACTUALLY QUITE FUSSY WHO LIVES HERE SO STAY WHERE YOU ARE SCUM.
have i hit a raw nerve? you cant have it both ways,you lot from bbl act and behave like REAL SCUM i would rather live in hell than bbl,even the kids park is being shut down because you cant stop vile drug dealers peddling their filth to innocent little kids,you are a joke to even defend the SCUM from bbl,and yes i would like to see you all put down like the dirty dogs that you are.

Berinsfield, says...
3:43pm Tue 8 Apr 08

CIVIL SERVANT wrote:
AS SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED ON B.B LEYS FOR 35 YEARS AND IS ONLY 8 MONTHS FROM RETIREMENT AFTER WORKING 42 YEARS OUT OF THE LAST 45.I IMAGINE THE PEOPLE ON BLACKBIRD LEYS ARE PROBABLY VERY MUCH ON A PAR WITH BERINSFIELD.I WOULD LIKE TO ADD I WOULD RATHER LIVE AMONG REAL PEOPLE THAN MENTALLY DEFICIENT PEOPLE.SO I AM GLAD B.B.LEYS EXISTS SO I DONT HAVE TO.
You say that but you are posting in capitals!

As i say BBL is a laugh it truly is..

Its time a few bob was spent on Berinsfield, instead of the BBL ASBO mob.


danny, berinsfield says...
6:02pm Tue 8 Apr 08

THE TRUTH HURTS DOESN'T IT OXFORD MAIL,YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS HELL WE ARE IN IN OXFORDSHIRE,GROW SOME BALLS,AND TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH,AND PIGS MIGHT FLY.

DanOxford, says...
6:11pm Tue 8 Apr 08

If you look on the bottom row of your keyboard on the left hand side, there's a key marked 'Ctrl'.

Just above this there's another with an arrow on it (nearly there).

Now- immediately above this one, there's one marked 'Caps Lock'- press it once, now.

That was a public service announcement for the hard of understanding.

Mr Ison, England says...
6:14pm Tue 8 Apr 08

Outspoken New Labour voter Tom had his educational post censored.

He detailed your worst fears adout new labour and their dodgy agenda.

You see merely commiting genocidal crimes abroad isn't doing it for them,they plan the same closer to their quizlings homes.

alan page, says...
7:50pm Tue 8 Apr 08

DanOxford wrote:
NuLabour don\'t give a stuff about the \'working class\'- they\'ve made it easier NOT to work, but for the rest of us they\'ve allowed mass immigration to undercut wages (the findings of a Lords report, yet Broon STILL says immigration on this scale is a \'good\' thing); house prices to spiral out of reach of most normal working people; tax to increase to record levels; the wealth gap to stay the same as it was under Thatcher; introduced University tuition fees and removed grants so that children from poorer familes are put off from going; undermined our sense of National pride and belonging and started an illegal war costing British lives. Think back to teh cash donations scandals- a property developer and a foreign national were involved- STILL think NuLabour are the part of working class British people?
Well there is nothing mentioned here that a Tory government would not have implimented.
Remember Vouchers for education etc.

Actually tuition fees only hits the middle classes like Dan now, so that's more nonsense. If the middle classes want free eduction they should campaign for the abolition of private secondary education.

I do find it hilarious to hear middleclass office workers trying to pretend they have some concern or connection with people they look down their Cocaine ridden noses on.

Just keep financing and supoorting those drug dealers Dan, you ain't fooling anybody.

alan page, says...
8:07pm Tue 8 Apr 08

Again I repeat: her comments seem more aimed at attitudes to building housing, estate designing etc. etc. rather than attacking the residents.

They were criticising the attitudes of town planners etc. with their "any old crap will do for these losers" attitude. She was saying that if that is the attitude towards individuals by people in power how can we be so surprised if it becomes the attitude of the people themselves.

I don't think it merits an apology.

Of course the other great Tory myth (propogated by Blair) is that social inequality is a myth and that "we are all middle class now."

Given this glib assertion it is entirely possible for middle class agendas and middle class posers to claim they speak for estate dwellers or count on their support for every dubious self centred piece of legislation they choose to pass.

Thankfully more and more estate dwellers are turning their backs on the kind of vacuous bourgeois degeneracy which empowers drug dealers and junkies at the expense of the community as a whole.

Its about time the residents of council estates stopped being treated as pisspots and stood up for their rights.

oxman, Oxford says...
9:52pm Tue 8 Apr 08

I can't see how only the middle classes are hit by university fees. If two parents work full time on the minimum wage, then their children are not entitled to any help with admission fees as the parents would be earning over the required threshold. Hardly middle class earners are they?

Mr Ison, England says...
10:00pm Tue 8 Apr 08

If you allow yourself to be taken in by carpetbaggers and cold calling shysters you have only yourself to blame.

Even the Police will be unable to assist you.

oxman, Oxford says...
10:51pm Tue 8 Apr 08

"middle class posers to claim they speak for estate dwellers"
AND
"Its about time the residents of council estates stopped being treated as pisspots and stood up for their rights."

POT.....KETTLE...BLA
CK springs to mind!!!

alan page, says...
12:22am Wed 9 Apr 08

oxman wrote:
"middle class posers to claim they speak for estate dwellers" AND "Its about time the residents of council estates stopped being treated as pisspots and stood up for their rights." POT.....KETTLE...BLA CK springs to mind!!!
I live on a council estate and earn £7 an hour in the retail sector?
Which estate do you hail from and what are your wages?

alan page, says...
12:25am Wed 9 Apr 08

oxman wrote:
I can't see how only the middle classes are hit by university fees. If two parents work full time on the minimum wage, then their children are not entitled to any help with admission fees as the parents would be earning over the required threshold. Hardly middle class earners are they?
Please provide a link to back up that assertion?
Sounds unlikely to me.

alan page, says...
12:29am Wed 9 Apr 08

alan page wrote:
oxman wrote: I can\'t see how only the middle classes are hit by university fees. If two parents work full time on the minimum wage, then their children are not entitled to any help with admission fees as the parents would be earning over the required threshold. Hardly middle class earners are they?
Please provide a link to back up that assertion? Sounds unlikely to me.
On second thoughts please don't.
The fact you seem to believe that those families who chose to opt out of free education at a secondary level should have free tertiary education at the state's expense indicates which side of the fence you sit on.

Tuition fees are as close to Socialism as Blair ever got.

oxman, Oxford says...
7:30am Wed 9 Apr 08

alan page wrote:
oxman wrote:
"middle class posers to claim they speak for estate dwellers" AND "Its about time the residents of council estates stopped being treated as pisspots and stood up for their rights." POT.....KETTLE...BLA CK springs to mind!!!
I live on a council estate and earn £7 an hour in the retail sector?
Which estate do you hail from and what are your wages?
You wasted your degree then??? the one you said you attained a few years back???

oxman, Oxford says...
7:38am Wed 9 Apr 08

"The fact you seem to believe that those families who chose to opt out of free education at a secondary level should have free tertiary education at the state's expense indicates which side of the fence you sit on."



I said nothing of the sort. You should READ what is being said before spouting your vitriol.

You said, "Actually tuition fees only hits the middle classes". That is incorrect. It hits the working classes too.


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Oxford Mail reporter Chris Walker, left, challenges Gordon Brown about Hazel Blears's comments on Blackbird Leys Among the bus company staff Mr Brown met were husband-and-wife drivers Andy Carter and Claire George-Carter and daughter Gemma

Oxford Mail reporter Chris Walker, left, challenges Gordon Brown about Hazel Blears's comments on Blackbird Leys

Among the bus company staff Mr Brown met were husband-and-wife drivers Andy Carter and Claire George-Carter and daughter Gemma



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